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Ich denke der Typ hat mittlerweile auch seinen Platz hier verdient: MisterXMedia

Sein ganzer Blog is ne erstklassige NextGen-War Comedyshow aus sicht eines MS-Fanboys. Da sind schon ein paar Kracher dabei:

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Who and how move gaming industry forward? Is it really Sony? Nope (Jan 2013 post)

Why sonyboys are ignoring many facts about next xbox and say PS4 will rule the world when many facts are against them? Well that is of cause a rhetoric question but lets try to watch closely.

1. IBM + AMD + MS work on new architecture which will not be available for PC for 3 years after xbox next launch(DX12 tech). There is a bunch of people came from IBM and AMD to MS. MS have their own department in AMD and pays all their expenses. That is really advanced tech they try to create and go to next level in cost/perfomance value(sources? there is many around on this blog by insider and readers discoverings).

2. MS moves DirectX API and with collaboration with AMD and developers make things developers really need for their game engines on a hardware and API level. Sony just make hardware and use what is available from OpenGL clones with slow progress inside thous libraries now. DirectX is superior now(i.e. means less money to get job done for developers). That is why Sony go with AMD in order not to loose to much in the future. HSA and new AMD's architecture will make things for game developers very simple on a new level. Nvidia will loose big because almost nobobdy will need their 600$ video card every 2 years. Valve and Crytec know that and will try to save PC. With new console cycle I see PC gaming market will be in decline. I do not see how Valve can change something with some other game dev. If only as Insider said PS4 will use Valves software in PS4. Valve + PS4 will be a strong combination and will offer great competition to MS if they will offer common shop and platform.

3. Sony afraid of MS and attacks first with aggressive brainwash and smoke and mirror tactics.

Sony: It is bad to go first.
Sony: It is not bad to go first.

The presentation was 6/10 with many unusefull features, 2 CGI as real-time(Agny and Shadow and marketing lie about featrures will not be implemented well.

4. MS opened new studios and have many new exclusives in the works (insider said that even in 2010). They will push hardcore to a new level. If not - they are dead. Even sonyboys understand that. It is their wet dream in order to make Sonys live a bit easy.

5. Leaked 1.2Tf specks in next xbox with 140 watt of energy is a perfect set top box config with new level of interactivity - TV+DVR+XBL games + apps. But it is not next xbox. Next xbox will be much more powerfull. Current set top box software MS offers is Media Room and it is already solid and offers many features. Media room set top boxes have great market share all over the world. Even I use it here in Russia via our local operator(beeline). And it is really great. Imagine when i will receive next set top box for free or will pay a little more and will get xbox next pro + live subscr + tv.

5.1 As notes in comment 1.2TF could be DP. That equals to 4.2SP.

6. PS4 is a middle range PC. MS started their project as insider said in 2007 and gone through many iterations. Xbox will be future proff as AMD and MS plan. I see not reason their plan will not work.

7. Sony copied many things from MS and PR them as it was Sony first to introduce. Gaikai is the last example.

8. Kinect 2.0 + illumiromm will be realy cool for casuals.

9. RayTracing capable hardware will amaze core gamers.

10. New interactivity TV will merge all our media sources.

11. Sony was first who talked internally about to block used games as Insider said already in 2010. Yoshidas answer on that topic was not clear and left room for misunderstanding. Youshida to his PR man: "What should we answer on that topic?" "You can play your game on every hardware" but no direct answer.

12. many other aspect sonyfans ignore for other article.

What MS haters arguments are based on? Is it good and clever arguments?

1. MS is run by MBA and xbox division lost their track.

Those who believe MS managers are that stupid should prove their credibility first. bgiliian - is from MSs Zune department in the past. I can guess Zune department was a bad department or bgilian was fired. But many sources on internet say xbox division collaborate very well and run by gamers. They know they move progress forward and have many opportunities to make living room fun even more complete and easy to use for everyone. Several bad opinions off MS haters and outsiders could not change reality - all Sonys latest project have bad realisation. All MSs latest project were well made. Microsoft upped their quality. I think it is Sony who have problem with managers and vision now.

2. MS has lost track of exclusives and core gaming.

Nope. MS has 90% off all core developers on xbox. MS has 95% of all console games on its platform. Don't be fooled by anry sonyboys from neogaf who spread a lie. Neogaf know internet listen to them.

MS invested a lot of money of their 1st party. Their 1st party have only quality. Sony have more quantity. Sony have only 3 games which are better than 3th party offerings. Only 3 games. Sonyboys makes it is like 30 games and lie to their selfs in denial about exclusives matter that much now. Interesting games with 90+ rank do really matter now. Not mediocre exclusives.

3. Xbox live is paid. It is bad.

No problem - don't pay for it and not use it. Go to PS3 if you think it is better for you. But it is not bad because it is paid. It is paid because it is superior.

4. many other inrelivant blah blah from Sony fans.

so that is a PR war MS let Sony win. MS just don't care for a reason. Just don't care about 0.01% of core gamers on neogaf who spread the lie for about 5 years in order to move peoples minds away from MS. Sales figures say people just don't care about thouse angry voices and vote with their valets for MS. Now when it is very hard not to believe thouse angry voices about MS is done with core MS will open their cards and surprise. Why have they waited so long? Because they were shaping the future and were just to busy. Xbox division is very healty division with great opportunities and talents.

Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance

I think Sonyboys still in stage 1.

Misterxmedia: Comming Next. How to make a retail $500 GPU cost you only $150 inside your console? The answer is simple: you have to invent it (pay all research & development costs. In MSs case it is AMD and IBM).

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Glaube das ist gar kein MS Fanboy, eher ein Sony Fanboy, welcher sich dann jedes Mal beömmelt wenn die MS Fanatiker ihm glauben und sich alles schön reden.

 

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Boar der Bullshit is ja noch besser:

Ein Dialog zwischen misterxmedia und seinem Insider: Must read!

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Insider Daily: Sony desperately try to upgrade PS4 for dGPU now to make it like Xbox One

August 29th, 13:04

Misterx: Also..where is dx11.2 promissed support from Microsoft? only dx11.1 we saw..
Insider: Dx 11.1+ will be getting a downgrade to dx8.1- in the one ...well that is what sdf would like and many might think that...

But the truth is, it is only a place holder. Wait till 29th or so I hear tgs.. As the nda will lift.

Misterx: Can you confirm PS4 is 1.8TFs? Or it is 3.2TF stacked as you previosly said?
How much more powerfull Xbox One is? Seems like xbox one is 3.7TF-4.2TF territory and PS4 will upgrade to 3.2TF

That will not gave Microsoft a KO victory and than means Xbox brand could not recover fast enought from damage Sony created with their lie and FUD...

Also, how is that possible to w2w 28nm and 20nm? Mistercteam say that is only 2.5D possibility....
Insider: Ps4 1.8tf x1 2.4tf without cloud with cloud 2.9tf(misterx comment: suddenly it is only 2.4TF now...below he hints why he lowered this from 4.2TF as in my understanding he tryes to be Level 3 or 4 developer. level 3/4/...developers do not have access to the advanced dev kits)with respectively these numbers may not carry over in real world figures. No pain no gain.

The ps4 1.8tf is a theoretical number.. this 40% is being based on white paper tests.. ps4 does not use the same custom silicon as x1..

the dpu are 80% faster then sonys gpgpu comput units. Were as the sony gpu is 14:4 and these process are gpu depended not specialized. they are definitely alot slower and harder to develop for as cerny has stated it will take 2-4 years to see ps4 architecture benefits.

The biggest struggle sony face are there belief the gpu can do it all. .. It has to do a lot of extreme heavy lifting to reach there aspirations. 70% of pseye processing has to be done on the gpu comput units and takes up 2 whole cores of processing. Yes onion and garlic + buss are extremely fast. But they also do have stalls.. the fact that the cpu is crippled to 10gbs. And fanboys have this vision that you just double the buss. Which in theory is true. But it comes with extreme optimization problems. The fact is the cpu just cant keep up with the gpu and comput load. This is where x1 hardware really shines. Esram on chip has allowed ms to get a 68gbs from the ddr3 but when cpu uses hsa memory coherently esram/ddr it has a constant 30gbs buss with 6 ops per core. The x1 design is a hsa+ design in theory. In nature of hsa it has been modified alot. Also the main soc gpu does not have to do physic's based calculations as there specialized
process for this. There is also two geometry engines. And there is also an extra gfx core and comput units. which has its own 10mb of esram it can access independently or shared. The sound and video do not have constraints on the gpu And kinect has all its own processing externally. . As for w2w mistercteam may be right. There has been alot of changes in x1 design and it is looking more and more like 2.5D. But I can honestly say I am not sure if co process are on a different silicon to the main soc at this time. Or are combined As we dont have access to final retail sdk. Even gamescom was not final ether. There is no manufacture problems as they really do have fail safes in place for bad binning. The wired hd shots showed where the co processors should have been on the motherboard but they were not in those shots. More will be said at tgs.. From the story coming directly from upper suits. It seems Ms may take a swing at Sony on there own turf.

Insider: I see a heap of people trying to add the x1 memory bandwidth and not getting the right figure. They all seem to see that some thing is missing or not adding up. They think ms are fools.. But the real truth is right in front of them.

If they factored in why there is a quad memory design 4x 256bit. Because each gpu and cpu has two read and wright address lines rather then have one big 512bit address line. Ms designed two 256bit gfx cores. Which each can access cpus. That is also why the cpu's are not one big clusters the cpus are split into 4 core. It would have made the cpu recourse worse over a 512bit bus and it would have coursed stalling and fragmentation. This is also why there is two swizzle main accelators / data move engines with 30gbs r/w that are solely for cpu/gpu. Do the maths with a second gpu architecture. Then it will all add up.. the system will not see 5tf performance gains. But 2.4 -3.1 is what has been said at many discussion. Which is why I have said 680 level of performance

Misterx: Do you still expect dGPU is there?
Insider: It is more like 2.4 - 3.1 tf..(misterx wonders dGPU only or the whole system?) which for a console with high level machine code available to developer is a staggering amount of tf.. and that ant half of what is in there as there is special dpu graphics process that handles other graphic things that pc are going struggle with... I will tell you 2.5D is still a highly effective method for stacking.. we where told w2w but that could be for the extra stuff gpu cpu gpu esram. I would hold off as I can not give you a straight up 100% truthful answer. We dont have finally sdk. Only capcom crytek ea ubisoft do .. I have seen it but not open. Back in june we saw inside the sdk and there was two apu's in the box. It looked like the wired photos. Very much like 360 design expect the second apu was close but on its own silicon. We were told that it would merged with the main soc w2w.. that is why the clocks were dropped from 1 ghz to 853. There was to much power draw for the chip. And the fans were always
kicking in. So they downclocked. But they had a winning design with massive capabilites .. not sure if both gpus are running @ 850.. I heard that one is 900mhz but I do not know if the source was authentic. Plus 4 quad 256bit buss are a lot more efficient then one big 512bit .. specially when crossfired and multi cpu gpgpu.

Misterx: So the second dGPU will be 0,9-1,5 TF only? how is that make sence?
Insider: I really want to tell you more.. believe me.. but right now there is a massive hardware battle going on.. sony know Ms have crushed them with the x1 specs.. sony is trying desperately to get a second dgpu into the ps4. That is why the truth is starting to leak out. Sony has had no final hardware running on real ps4 hardware its all phase 3 dev kits.. sony are trying to boost the consoles hardware. I think the gaming media will come out a lot more about ths truth ps4 is not what sony promised .. Cerny know this to.. its a console war . Sony have been very ruthlessly and time has run out.. I cant say much more NDA and ms have the army out right now . X1 is extremely powerful you dont even know the half..

Misterx: That is sounds better
So, no problems for Xbox One to be on pair with PCs for next 5 years? So, if no PS4 upgrade then 2-3 more powerfull still in place?
We need somehow to be sure MS will fast regain its ground...if that will be 1.84 vs 2.4 that will not be fast...also why BF4 dev say PC version will be better...
Insider: Its going to be on par... but it will still take coding to metal... pc is an open platform. It never stagnates. That is were cloud comes in to x1 architecture. Because the data centers are ever evolving and so is the internet. It will allow a grasping of the pc platform ever evolving expenditure. Of course hypothetical In aspect now for gpu culls, it is however very efficient for physics and adaptive a.i .Branch predicted light and geometry. Five years from now it will be rendering full 2tf gpus performance with ease.

When it comes to x1 and bf4 . There is going to be some comprises. Your not going to see native 4k or supper high aa or af levels that a pc with 2 or 3 7890 or 780 are going to be doing. Its just not possible. 64player @ 60fps and 1080p will happen.. but pc is lead platform so its going to be better with a 4k tv and a 4000$ computer. It is logical

Insider: Mistercteam is correct In his Bнимание к деталям(misterx - attention to details in russian...shocked he wrote this in russian) .. keep digging... I expect ms to start looking at you guys in a different mind now. Expect a few discrediting comments.

das ist on Par zu den ganzen anderen Verschwörungstheorien die es im Netz gibt, sprich das "Obama ist ein Reptiloalien vom Planeten Vexkon" des Konsolenwars. Die beiden gehen davon aus das die 1,3Tf der XboxOne und die 1,8Tf der PS4 nur die hälfte der wahrheit ist, da die finalen Produkte aus 2 zusammen getapten Soc's bestehen werden, sprich der Ram die GPU und die CPU zahl mal 2.

Geiler scheiß

PCHardware schämst du dich nicht, misterxmedia als quelle anzugeben und aus seinem Gerücht eine News zu schreiben?

 

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Das GIF zum Willkommens-Thread von Major Nelson im GAF

 

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Link?

 

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Das GIF für MisterX zum Twitter-Eintrag von Albert Penello als er das Gerücht um die 2 dGPU als unwahr bestätigte

 

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Ooooh man. Passt das gut.

 

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Grandious !

 

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hahaha, das sollte mal jemand bei ihm im blog posten, aber der löscht/blockiert eh alles kritische direkt.

 

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hahaha, das sollte mal jemand bei ihm im blog posten, aber der löscht/blockiert eh alles kritische direkt.

Sind halt dumme Kommentare von Gehirngewaschenden Sony-fanboys

 

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Misterx mal wieder:

Insider Daily. Xbox One have 4 lines of main memory to make it 4 x 68GB/s = 272 GB/s
+ Mehr Unsinn...


Dann müsste die PS4 ja 16 x 174GB/s = 2784 GB/s haben

 

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