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Hab bisher auch nur FIFA Street (aus der Not heraus) und Max 3 gekauft. Spiele wie Proto 2 oder Darkness 2 sind mir keine 60 Tacken wert ... wäre doch nur schon Herbst. 
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Mondknallschlumpf
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Steffko schrieb:Wurde aber auch Zeit, dass diese lächerlich lange Generation den Herstellern mal so richtig in den Hintern beißt
Media Create-Daten aus Japan [11.06. - 17.06.]
[thx @ donny2112/NeoGAF]
01./00. [PSV] Persona 4: The Golden [Atlus] - 137.076 [NEW]
02./02. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry no Wonderland 3D [Square Enix] - 66.434 [662.946] (-20%)
03./00. [PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw [Kadokawa Shoten] - 53.347 [NEW]
04./01. [PS3] Tokyo Jungle [Sony] - 35.989 [146.298] (-67%)
05./00. [PSP] Akiba's Trip Plus [Acquire] - 29.505 [NEW]
06./04. [PS3] Dragon's Dogma [Capcom] - 18.039 [437.248] (-47%)
07./05. [3DS] Mario Tennis Open [Nintendo] - 17.856 [185.011] (-26%)
08./06. [WII] Mario Party 9 [Nintendo] - 16.143 [433.787] (-6%)
09./00. [360] Lollipop Chainsaw [Kadokawa Shoten] - 14.422 [NEW]
10./07. [3DS] Super Mario Land 3D [Nintendo] - 9.244 [1.623.749] (-2%)
11./03. [PSV] Kidou Senshi Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny [Bandai Namco] - 8.826 [49.122] (-78%)
12./10. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 [Nintendo] - 6.664 [1.741.745] (-1%)
13./09. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening [Nintendo] - 5.758 [413.787] (-18%)
14./11. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G [Capcom] - 5.569 [1.477.374] (-9%)
15./00. [360] Root Double: Before Crime * After Days [Abel] - 5.450 [NEW]
16./14. [WII] Wii Sports Resort w/ Wii Remote+ [Nintendo] - 3.981 [961.427] (-4%)
17./15. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games [Nintendo] - 3.580 [183.824] (-8%)
18./00. [3DS] Gon: BakuBakuBakuBaku Adventure [Bandai Namco] - 3.208 [NEW]
19./13. [PS3] Jissen Pachi-Slot Hisshouhou! Hokuto no Ken F - Legend of the End of the Century Savior [Sega] - 3.163 [21.801] (-35%)
20./16. [WII] Wii Party [Nintendo] - 3.071 [2.365.018] (-8%)
[thx @ donny2112/NeoGAF]
01./00. [PSV] Persona 4: The Golden [Atlus] - 137.076 [NEW]
02./02. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry no Wonderland 3D [Square Enix] - 66.434 [662.946] (-20%)
03./00. [PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw [Kadokawa Shoten] - 53.347 [NEW]
04./01. [PS3] Tokyo Jungle [Sony] - 35.989 [146.298] (-67%)
05./00. [PSP] Akiba's Trip Plus [Acquire] - 29.505 [NEW]
06./04. [PS3] Dragon's Dogma [Capcom] - 18.039 [437.248] (-47%)
07./05. [3DS] Mario Tennis Open [Nintendo] - 17.856 [185.011] (-26%)
08./06. [WII] Mario Party 9 [Nintendo] - 16.143 [433.787] (-6%)
09./00. [360] Lollipop Chainsaw [Kadokawa Shoten] - 14.422 [NEW]
10./07. [3DS] Super Mario Land 3D [Nintendo] - 9.244 [1.623.749] (-2%)
11./03. [PSV] Kidou Senshi Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny [Bandai Namco] - 8.826 [49.122] (-78%)
12./10. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 [Nintendo] - 6.664 [1.741.745] (-1%)
13./09. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening [Nintendo] - 5.758 [413.787] (-18%)
14./11. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G [Capcom] - 5.569 [1.477.374] (-9%)
15./00. [360] Root Double: Before Crime * After Days [Abel] - 5.450 [NEW]
16./14. [WII] Wii Sports Resort w/ Wii Remote+ [Nintendo] - 3.981 [961.427] (-4%)
17./15. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games [Nintendo] - 3.580 [183.824] (-8%)
18./00. [3DS] Gon: BakuBakuBakuBaku Adventure [Bandai Namco] - 3.208 [NEW]
19./13. [PS3] Jissen Pachi-Slot Hisshouhou! Hokuto no Ken F - Legend of the End of the Century Savior [Sega] - 3.163 [21.801] (-35%)
20./16. [WII] Wii Party [Nintendo] - 3.071 [2.365.018] (-8%)
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|System | This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD |
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| 3DS | 61.793 | 64.875 | 2.002.398 | 6.284.542 |
| PSV | 34.459 | 13.383 | 325.528 | 765.513 |
| PS3 | 14.673 | 15.593 | 603.597 | 8.239.983 |
| PSP | 9.740 | 10.038 | 424.054 | 19.153.416 |
| WII | 5.963 | 6.029 | 242.112 | 12.405.334 |
| PS2 | 1.237 | 1.091 | 28.323 | 21.802.430 |
| 360 | 1.084 | 1.001 | 37.063 | 1.573.107 |
| NDS | 1.069 | 998 | 42.745 | 32.851.229 |
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| DSiLL | 689 | 615 | 24.747 | 2.319.064 |
| DSi | 380 | 383 | 17.998 | 5.852.050 |
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Marktwert von EA innerhalb von ~7 Monaten halbiert
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-06-21-stock-ticker-why-eas-market-valuation-has-crashedElectronic Arts' stock has been in a steady decline [since November 2011] which has now wiped close to 50 per cent off EA's valuation. It's not a decline as sharp as THQ's, but it represents a much larger loss of value - THQ's market capitalisation is only around $50 million, whereas even after this enormous loss of value, EA is still capitalised at around $4 billion.
[...]
Firstly, there's Star Wars: The Old Republic. [...] Expectations among investors for SWTOR were extremely high[...] high development costs (which probably make it the most expensive game project ever), the strength of the Star Wars license, the track record of developer Bioware and, crucially, the tantalising possibility of building an ongoing MMO revenue stream for EA [...] While it would be unfair to characterise SWTOR as a complete failure, it has certainly not been a success on the level which EA or its investors would have wanted. The game has lost 400,000 subscribers since February, and it seems inevitable that the company will be forced into an embarrassing (but probably commercially sensible) transition to a free-to-play model sooner rather than later.
[...]
For many investors, the disappointing performance of SWTOR is almost certainly seen as the "final straw" in terms of the second factor in this decline - John Riccitiello's leadership of EA. [...] promising to turn the company around - outlining a transformation plan which would see EA focusing on quality, controlling costs, embracing digital business models and improving the company's tarnished reputation. In some respects, his successes are undeniable. EA's digital business is booming [...] while the company still attracts brickbats from vocal fans on the internet on a regular basis, titles like Mass Effect, Dead Space and Battlefield have also earned it a reputation for creating high-quality "core" titles.
In other respects [...] Riccitiello's transformation of EA is clearly struggling [...] When he arrived in 2007[...] to bring the company through would take three years. In mid-2012, there's still no end in sight. [...] SWTOR was almost certainly being used by many investors as a test of Riccitiello's strategy. It's a hugely expensive title, created by a studio with a reputation for quality (which Riccitiello himself added to the EA group as one of his first actions on becoming CEO), and focused strongly on digital business objectives, not least of which was being the flagship title for Origin, EA's Steam competitor. For SWTOR to fail makes Riccitiello's entire strategy look dodgy to investors who were already deeply concerned by the slow pace of progress.
[...]Look how quick they were to spread the frankly barmy rumour that Japanese-Korean free-to-play gaming firm Nexon was going to buy EA [...]it illustrates how far EA has fallen within the market (despite having a healthy slate of titles and pretty solid financials), and secondly, it tells you that investors are very, very keen for something like that to happen. They'd like to see some kind of exit for EA, which means that they're not confident in the firm's future.
As you can see, EA is underperforming its rivals by a pretty significant margin[...]the problems facing EA and Take Two are even more starkly revealed, as both of them are veering sharply away from the red line (which you can think of as a kind of average of the performance of American tech companies). Activision Blizzard, meanwhile, is just about managing to hug the line - slightly underperforming it in the past few months, if anything.
Dow Jones
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Das ist einfach..unglaublich...Mit diesen starken IPs und Lizenzen so zu versagen schafft nicht jeder. Gut, Star Wars, darauf hat man viel Hoffnung gesetzt, aber Erwartungen wurden auch nicht erfüllt. Bitter. Aber das Spiel allein ist nicht dafür verantwortlich, dass EA 50% in 7 Monaten wegballert. Das Grab hat man sich vorher geschaufelt. Einfach unglaublich.
Eigentlich kann EA nur noch auf F2P etc. umsteigen, weil mit ihren aktuellen Produkten scheint es nicht mehr zu klappen. EA fehlt halt der große Megasteller, denen fehlt ein Assassins Creed, CoD oder GTA, zwar haben sie Fifa und Madden, aber ich gehe jede Wette ein, dass da auch die Lizenzgeber richtig viel abbekommen.
Das schlimme daran ist finde ich, dass seit sie gute Spiele produzieren es so schlecht läuft. EA wird für Qualität bestraft.
Das schlimme daran ist finde ich, dass seit sie gute Spiele produzieren es so schlecht läuft. EA wird für Qualität bestraft.
Dow Jones
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Anubis schrieb:
Naja, sie haben Battlefield und wie du schon sagtest FiFA und Madden. Kommt "Die Sims" nicht auch von denen? Das sind alles Marken, die man leicht flegen kann. Zudem noch BioWare und bis auf Star Wars hat da jedes Spiel die Erwartung erfüllt.
EA ist einfach zu groß und muss sich gesund schrumpfen.
Vor allem hat EA diese Megaseller. Mehr sogar als jeder andere Publisher.
Ein Battlefield 3 hat sich wie oft verkauft? Medal of Honor?
FIFA, Madden, Sims und oftmals NfS liegen jedes Jahr über 5 Millionen Einheiten.
Was genau bei EA immer schief läuft, weiss ich nicht. Vieles dürfte an Lizenzkosten weggehen. Aber an super erfolgreichen IPs mangelt es ihnen nicht.
Ein Battlefield 3 hat sich wie oft verkauft? Medal of Honor?
FIFA, Madden, Sims und oftmals NfS liegen jedes Jahr über 5 Millionen Einheiten.
Was genau bei EA immer schief läuft, weiss ich nicht. Vieles dürfte an Lizenzkosten weggehen. Aber an super erfolgreichen IPs mangelt es ihnen nicht.
Sie haben aber auch bestimmt das dreifache an Spielen, welche sich nicht so gut verkaufen. Und Battlefield 3 hatte wohl so teure Werbung, dass die 13 Mio. Einheiten denen die Kassen trotzdem nicht voll spülen.
Wahrscheinlich liegt ein großer Teil des Problems auch daran, dass sie so viele Entwickler/Publisher geschluckt haben, deshalb haben sie Unmengen an Mitarbeitern und viele Lizenzen, die sie wohl nie brauchen werden.
Ich finde aber auch das EA ein Publisher ist, der öffentlich das Geld aus dem Fenster wirft, die geben teils Geld für Dinge aus...
Wahrscheinlich liegt ein großer Teil des Problems auch daran, dass sie so viele Entwickler/Publisher geschluckt haben, deshalb haben sie Unmengen an Mitarbeitern und viele Lizenzen, die sie wohl nie brauchen werden.
Ich finde aber auch das EA ein Publisher ist, der öffentlich das Geld aus dem Fenster wirft, die geben teils Geld für Dinge aus...
Dow Jones
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Das ist allerdings richtig. Das habe ich ja via Auflistungs selbst als Quelle angegeben.Anubis schrieb:
Wärest du da mal so freundlich und nennst deine Quelle?
Edit: hab selbst nachgesehen:
ja, wer hat, der hat. Andere Quellen sprechen von 45-50 Mio. Wie auch immer. Für EA wird sich Battlefield dennoch sehr gelohnt haben, nur relativiert sich das dann im Endeffekt ein wenig.
Zimtzicke schrieb:
Ja, die releasen trotzdem zu viel Quark. Aber okay, mit irgendwas muss man seine Leute auch beschäftigen.
Media Create-Daten aus Japan [18.06. - 24.06.]
[thx @ donny2112/NeoGAF]
01./00. [NDS] Pokémon Black 2/White 2 [Nintendo] - 1.561.738 [NEW]
02./02. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry no Wonderland 3D [Square Enix] - 58.228 [721.174] (-12%)
03./01. [PSV] Persona 4: The Golden [Atlus] - 29.293 [166.369] (-79%)
04./00. [PSP] Kenka Banchou Bros. Tokyo Battle Royale [Spike] - 21.797 [NEW]
05./04. [PS3] Tokyo Jungle [Sony] - 18.715 [165.013] (-48%)
06./00. [PS3] K-On! Houkago Live!! (Afterschool Live!) HD Version [Sega] - 13.581 [NEW]
07./08. [WII] Mario Party 9 [Nintendo] - 13.339 [447.126] (-17%)
08./07. [3DS] Mario Tennis Open [Nintendo] - 13.036 [198.047] (-27%)
09./06. [PS3] Dragon's Dogma [Capcom] - 9.162 [446.410] (-49%)
10./03. [PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw [Kadokawa Shoten] - 7.898 [61.246] (-85%)
11./10. [3DS] Super Mario Land 3D [Nintendo] - 7.609 [1.631.358] (-18%)
12./12. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 [Nintendo] - 5.091 [1.746.836] (-24%)
13./05. [PSP] Akiba's Trip Plus [Acquire] - 5.034 [34.539] (-83%)
14./00. [360] Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor [Capcom] - 4.889 [NEW]
15./00. [PSP] Arcana Famiglia: Vascello Phantasma no Majutsushi [Comfort] - 4.854 [NEW]
16./16. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (w/ Wii Remote+) [Nintendo] - 4.287 [965.713] (+8%)
17./14. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G [Capcom] - 4.269 [1.481.643] (-23%)
18./13. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening [Nintendo] - 3.972 [417.760] (-31%)
19./11. [PSV] Kidou Senshi Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny [Bandai Namco] - 3.668 [52.790] (-58%)
20./17. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games [Nintendo] - 2.965 [186.789] (-17%)
[thx @ donny2112/NeoGAF]
01./00. [NDS] Pokémon Black 2/White 2 [Nintendo] - 1.561.738 [NEW]
02./02. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry no Wonderland 3D [Square Enix] - 58.228 [721.174] (-12%)
03./01. [PSV] Persona 4: The Golden [Atlus] - 29.293 [166.369] (-79%)
04./00. [PSP] Kenka Banchou Bros. Tokyo Battle Royale [Spike] - 21.797 [NEW]
05./04. [PS3] Tokyo Jungle [Sony] - 18.715 [165.013] (-48%)
06./00. [PS3] K-On! Houkago Live!! (Afterschool Live!) HD Version [Sega] - 13.581 [NEW]
07./08. [WII] Mario Party 9 [Nintendo] - 13.339 [447.126] (-17%)
08./07. [3DS] Mario Tennis Open [Nintendo] - 13.036 [198.047] (-27%)
09./06. [PS3] Dragon's Dogma [Capcom] - 9.162 [446.410] (-49%)
10./03. [PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw [Kadokawa Shoten] - 7.898 [61.246] (-85%)
11./10. [3DS] Super Mario Land 3D [Nintendo] - 7.609 [1.631.358] (-18%)
12./12. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 [Nintendo] - 5.091 [1.746.836] (-24%)
13./05. [PSP] Akiba's Trip Plus [Acquire] - 5.034 [34.539] (-83%)
14./00. [360] Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor [Capcom] - 4.889 [NEW]
15./00. [PSP] Arcana Famiglia: Vascello Phantasma no Majutsushi [Comfort] - 4.854 [NEW]
16./16. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (w/ Wii Remote+) [Nintendo] - 4.287 [965.713] (+8%)
17./14. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G [Capcom] - 4.269 [1.481.643] (-23%)
18./13. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening [Nintendo] - 3.972 [417.760] (-31%)
19./11. [PSV] Kidou Senshi Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny [Bandai Namco] - 3.668 [52.790] (-58%)
20./17. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games [Nintendo] - 2.965 [186.789] (-17%)
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|System | This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD |
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| 3DS | 68.056 | 61.793 | 2.070.454 | 6.352.598 |
| PS3 | 15.680 | 14.673 | 619.277 | 8.255.663 |
| PSV | 13.589 | 34.459 | 339.117 | 779.102 |
| PSP | 8.954 | 9.740 | 433.008 | 19.162.370 |
| WII | 6.127 | 5.963 | 248.239 | 12.411.461 |
| NDS | 1.604 | 1.069 | 44.349 | 32.852.833 |
| 360 | 1.073 | 1.084 | 38.136 | 1.574.180 |
| PS2 | 1.065 | 1.237 | 29.388 | 21.803.495 |
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| DSi | 900 | 380 | 18.898 | 5.852.950 |
| DSiLL | 704 | 689 | 25.451 | 2.319.768 |
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Da gibts doch schon lange nichts mehr abzuschrecken.
