Spawn Wave: I do wonder if they [Guerrilla] are overestimating the Horizon franchise right now and its pull, because...Zero Dawn, they showed-we've seen the leaked documents, like it sold well but they were also at one point selling it at 10 bucks, they were giving it away at one point...it was very easy to get the game basically. Forbidden West didn't seem like it had the sales velocity that Zero Dawn did, and now I'm also wondering about...there's going to be one more game their trilogy for their mainline thing. The online aspect you're mentioning...I don't really know how many people are like really calling for that right now. I feel like it would've better off as a mode, like Ghost of Tsushima Legends, they had that as a separate mode for it and it was a fun little multiplayer thing. I think that might've worked better for it, but we haven't seen it yet, I'm just curious how many people are really jumping up and down for it.
Jason Schreier: And their plan...I mean, Horizon Online is their next product, not the third single-player game, looks like. So, that one may be waaays off.
SpawnWave: Uuh, ok...
Jason Schreier: Yeah, I mean like, Sony-PlayStation's like live service initiative was no joke, everybody was like...it's live service games all around. Horizon is one of the few ones that hasn't been canceled or hasn't come out and flopped the way Concord did and so...yeah, a lot of questions. A lot of people are working on that.