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Das bezweifle ich ernsthaft, gibt's dafür ne Quelle? Ich sag nicht, dass die PS4 am Ende nicht rentabel wird, aber ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass Sony damit jetzt schon Gewinn macht.

Ne Quelle? Das kannste doch in jedem Jahresbericht nachlesen. Was man leider auch nachlesen kann ist, dass Nintendo die letzen Jahre nicht immer Gewinne eingefahren hat, sondern Millionen Verluste verzeichnen musste. Sterben werden sie davon natürlich nicht. Aber manchmal muss ich den Unsinn eben korrigieren, den ich hier lese, nimms mir net übel. Deine Nintendoliebe in allen Ehren aber manche Aussagen von dir sind einfach falsch, verkürzt oder unvollständig.
 
Das Problem bei Sonys Auslieferungszahlen ist das sie wie bei der PlayStation 2 [und Nintendo bei Wii damals] reparierte ausgetauschte Konsolen als neuverkaufte angeben, macht die Zahl nicht extrem kleiner, aber sollte imo immer bedacht werden. So oder so, diese Generation führt kein Weg an Sony vorbei, sie selbst haben vieles richtig gemacht wärend Microsoft und Nintendo vieles falsch gemacht haben. Diese Generation ist schon längst entschieden und war es eigentlich auch schon nach den beiden Events damals.
 
Interessant das die belächelte seite vgzcharts 18,2 Mio im Vorfeld angegeben hat. Also so sehr ausgedacht können die Zahlen ja dann gar nicht sein, oder?
 
Interessant das die belächelte seite vgzcharts 18,2 Mio im Vorfeld angegeben hat. Also so sehr ausgedacht können die Zahlen ja dann gar nicht sein, oder?

Es kommt wohl darauf an: Wenn ein Spiel/Konsole lange auf dem Markt ist, und es viele Quellen gibt, auf der Basis man hochrechnen kann, werden die Zahlen schon genauer. Bei aber gerade neu erschienen Spielen/Hardware, wo es vielleicht nur eine Quelle gibt, oder Zahlen aus nur einer Region, ist das natürlich das reinste gewürfel.
 
Interessant das die belächelte seite vgzcharts 18,2 Mio im Vorfeld angegeben hat. Also so sehr ausgedacht können die Zahlen ja dann gar nicht sein, oder?

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Enterbrain-Daten für 2014

Software Top10

01. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Ganso/Honke [Level 5] - 3.050.178 [NEW]
02. [3DS] Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire [Nintendo] - 2.464.850 [NEW]
03. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4G [Capcom] - 2.381.177 [NEW]
04. [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS [Nintendo] - 2.066.022 [NEW]
05. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Shin Uchi [Level 5] - 2.007.327 [NEW]

06. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch [Level 5] - 994.346 [1.280.799]
07. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 [Nintendo] - 842.053 [NEW]
08. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Iru to Ruka no Fushigi na Fushigi na Kagi [Square Enix] - 748.139 [NEW]
09. [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe [Nintendo] - 687.957 [NEW]
10. [WIU] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U [Nintendo] - 478.366 [NEW]

Das erste mal seit Super Famicom-Tagen das Nintendokonsolen wieder die komplette Top10 stellen.

Hardware

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01. 3DS - 3.153.045 [17.847.056]
02. PSV - 1.147.936 [ 3.423.075]
03. PS4 -   925.570
04. WIU -   604.856 [ 2.123.283]
05. PS3 -   450.034 [10.018.534]
06. XB1 -    45.958

Media Create-Daten aus Japan [22.12. - 28.12.]
[thx @ Chris1964/NeoGAF]

01./01. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Shin Uchi [Level 5] - 262.310 [2.039.205] (-51%)
02./02. [3DS] Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire [Nintendo] - 165.329 [2.283.344] (-1%)
03./05. [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS [Nintendo] - 91.857 [2.001.935] (+24%)
04./04. [WIU] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U [Nintendo] - 85.776 [471.236] (+9%)
05./09. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4G [Capcom] - 51.306 [2.345.260] (+33%)
06./03. [3DS] Final Fantasy Explorers [Square Enix] - 49.671 [210.869] (-69%)
07./08. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Ganso/Honke [Level 5] - 42.765 [3.040.100] (+9%)
08./10. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 [Nintendo] - 38.637 [851.776] (+13%)
09./07. [PSV] Gundam Breaker 2 [Bandai Namco] - 26.477 [83.665] (-54%)
10./06. [PS3] Gundam Breaker 2 [Bandai Namco] - 22.414 [88.946] (-66%)

11./00. [PSV] Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei: Out of Order [Bandai Namco] - 21.978 [NEW]
12./18. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf [Nintendo] - 20.882 [3.868.448] (+21%)
13./13. [WIU] Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker [Nintendo] - 19.074 [119.961] (-6%)
14./15. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Koko ga Ochitsukundesu [Nippon Columbia] - 18.741 [74.642] (-6%)
15./17. [3DS] Aikatsu! 365-Hi no Idol Days [Bandai Namco] - 17.301 [85.538] (-9%)
16./14. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [Take-Two Interactive Japan] - 16.425 [118.214] (-18%)
17./20. [3DS] Attack on Titan: The Last Wings of Mankind - Chain [Spike Chunsoft] - 14.866 [58.966] (+20%)
18./22. [3DS] Gotouchi Tetsudou: Gotouchi Chara to Nihon Zenkoku no Tabi [Bandai Namco] - 14.549 [47.130]
19./00. [PS4] Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor [Warner Entertainment Japan] - 14.113 [NEW]
20./21. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 [Nintendo] - 13.629 [2.437.387]

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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| 3DS # |    196.274 |    196.351 |    201.703 |  3.176.525 |  4.882.040 |  17.838.445 |
|  WIU  |     43.950 |     38.314 |     73.178 |    618.150 |    898.143 |   2.143.580 |
| PSV # |     43.495 |     33.797 |     87.142 |  1.168.570 |  1.224.532 |   3.523.927 |
|  PS4  |     33.150 |     30.951 |            |    970.667 |            |     970.667 |
|  PS3  |     12.578 |      9.956 |     30.321 |    459.317 |    849.590 |  10.168.991 |
|  XB1  |      1.162 |        893 |            |     43.267 |            |      43.267 |
|  360  |        121 |        129 |        616 |      9.816 |     25.482 |   1.649.132 |
| PSP # |          7 |          6 |     10.310 |     97.724 |    439.398 |  20.166.133 |
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|  ALL  |    330.737 |    310.397 |    404.985 |  6.544.036 |  8.391.267 |  56.504.142 |
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| PSVTV |      1.090 |        963 |      6.031 |     73.969 |     76.244 |     150.213 |
|  PSV  |     42.405 |     32.834 |     81.111 |  1.094.601 |  1.148.288 |   3.373.714 |
|n-3DSLL|    105.947 |    108.235 |            |    867.058 |            |     867.058 |
| n-3DS |     49.503 |     46.815 |            |    369.306 |            |     369.306 |
| 3DSLL |     25.653 |     27.469 |    139.867 |  1.406.737 |  3.335.515 |   6.832.623 |
|  3DS  |     15.171 |     13.832 |     61.836 |    533.424 |  1.546.525 |   9.769.458 |
|  PSP  |          7 |          6 |     10.310 |     97.724 |    439.398 |  19.990.146 |
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Hardwarezahlenvergleich der drei Xbox-Konsolen in Japan:

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               XBX                    360                  XB1
01.    123.929 [123.929]    62.135 [ 62.135]         25.674 [ 25.674]
02.     37.147 [161.076]    12.320 [ 74.455]          3.015 [ 28.779]
03.     10.930 [172.006]     7.315 [ 81.770]          1.314 [ 30.003]
04.      7.924 [179.930]    12.755 [ 94.525]          1.113 [ 31.116]
05.      5.005 [184.935]     8.655 [103.180]          1.062 [ 32.178]

06.      5.157 [190.092]     4.620 [107.800]            809 [ 32.987]
07.      3.188 [193.280]     2.762 [110.562]            728 [ 33.715]
08.      2.532 [195.812]     2.095 [112.657]            613 [ 34.328]
09.      3.286 [199.098]     2.022 [114.679]            599 [ 34.927]
10.      5.112 [204.210]     1.463 [116.142]            513 [ 35.440]

11.      3.326 [207.536]     1.212 [117.354]          2.245 [ 37.685]
12.      1.872 [209.408]     1.082 [118.436]            776 [ 38.461]
13.        834 [210.242]     1.020 [119.456]          1.237 [ 39.698]
14.      6.447 [216.689]     1.035 [120.491]            790 [ 40.488]
15.      5.912 [222.601]     1.181 [121.672]            724 [ 41.212]

16.      2.836 [225.437]     1.550 [123.222]            893 [ 42.105]
17.      4.359 [229.796]     2.636 [125.858]          1.162 [ 43.267]
18.      3.358 [233.154]     1.752 [127.610]
19.      3.218 [236.372]     1.780 [129.390]
20.      3.111 [239.483]     2.852 [132.242]

21.      3.218 [242.701]     2.742 [134.984]
22.      2.958 [245.659]     2.021 [137.005]
23.      6.047 [251.706]     1.496 [138.501]
24.      3.826 [255.532]     1.415 [139.916]
25.      3.135 [258.667]     1.218 [141.134]
 
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Sony has added to its global PS4 sales info by confirming the console’s UK success in 2014.

The platform holder says GfK Chart-Track data shows that PS4 was the UK’s best-selling console in 2014 and also the best-selling machine on both Black Friday and Cyber Monday in November.

It was also the best-selling console in the final week of the year and the best-selling across November and December combined, although it has previously been claimed that Xbox One was the best-selling machine in November alone.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/ps4-was-the-uk-s-best-selling-console-in-2014/0143505
 
Japan's console market at lowest point for 24 years
2014's total physical game sales for all home console and handhelds generated 369 billion yen (£2bn). Back in 2007 that number was nearly double - 688bn yen (£3.8bn).
The 10 top-selling games in Japan last year were all for Nintendo platforms (eight of which were for 3DS, a reflection of Japan's preference for handhelds in general).
3DS was, unsurprisingly, the top-selling console in Japan last year. It shifted 3.1m units, making for a 17.8m lifetime total in the country.

PlayStation Vita was the second-best selling console. Sony shifted 1.1m units, out of a 3.4m Japanese lifetime total.

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...sical-game-sales-at-lowest-point-for-24-years
 
Verkaufscharts: Deutschland - 2014: Die Top-Spiele sortiert nach Plattformen - PlayStation 4 und FIFA haben die Nase vorn
http://www.4players.de/4players.php..._vorn_erstes_Xbox-One-Spiel_auf_Platz_55.html

Verkaufscharts Deutschland 2014 - nach Plattformen
01. (PS4) FIFA 2015
02. (PS3) FIFA 2015
03. (PS4) Grand Theft Auto 5
04. (PS4) Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
05. (PC) Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls
06. (3DS) Tomodachi Life
07. (PS4) Assassin's Creed: Unity
08. (PS3) Minecraft
09. (PS4) Watch Dogs
10. (PC) Die Sims 4
11. (PS4) Far Cry 4
12. (PS4) Destiny
13. (PS3) Grand Theft Auto 5
14. (PS4) FIFA 2014
15. (PC) Landwirtschafts-Simulator 2015
16. (PS4) The Last of Us - Remastered
17. (Wii U) Mario Kart 8
18. (PS3) FIFA 2014
19. (3DS) Pokémon Omega Rubin
20. (3DS) Pokémon Alpha Saphir
...
27. (PS4) inFamous: Second Son
...
33. (Wii U) Super Smash Bros.
...
44. (PS4) DriveClub
...
55. (Xbox One) FIFA 2015
...
58. (Wii U) Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
...
61. (Xbox One) Grand Theft Auto 5
...
66. (Xbox One) Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
...
91. (Xbox One) Forza Motorsport 5

mehr als 500.000 Verkäufe - nur Platz 1
mehr als 200.000 Verkäufe - Plätze 2 bis 9
mehr als 100.000 Verkäufe - Plätze 31 bis 10


Was für ein schreckliches Sony-Land wir doch sind. Glaube ich muss auswandern. Irgendwo hin, wo die Xbox subventioniert und den Kindern bei der Einschulung vom Staat geschenkt wird. Auch, wenn das bei der One schwer werden dürfte... :D
 
Media Create-Daten aus Japan [29.12. - 04.01.]
[thx @ Chris1964/NeoGAF]

01./01. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Shin Uchi [Level 5] - 207.923 [2.247.129] (-21%)
02./02. [3DS] Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire [Nintendo] - 110.895 [2.394.239] (-33%)
03./03. [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS [Nintendo] - 70.913 [2.072.848] (-23%)
04./04. [WIU] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U [Nintendo] - 58.008 [529.244] (-32%)
05./05. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4G [Capcom] - 45.754 [2.391.014] (-11%)
06./08. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 [Nintendo] - 28.403 [880.180] (-26%)
07./07. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Ganso/Honke [Level 5] - 24.121 [3.064.221] (-44%)
08./06. [3DS] Final Fantasy Explorers [Square Enix] - 22.928 [233.796] (-54%)
09./09. [PSV] Gundam Breaker 2 [Bandai Namco] - 18.104 [101.768] (-32%)
10./16. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [Take-Two Interactive Japan] - 17.451 [135.665] (+6%)

11./12. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf [Nintendo] - 16.672 [3.885.120] (-20%)
12./10. [PS3] Gundam Breaker 2 [Bandai Namco] - 15.464 [104.410] (-31%)
13./18. [3DS] Gotouchi Tetsudou: Gotouchi Chara to Nihon Zenkoku no Tabi [Bandai Namco] - 13.854 [60.984] (-5%)
14./20. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 [Nintendo] - 12.913 [2.450.300] (-5%)
15./14. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Koko ga Ochitsukundesu [Nippon Columbia] - 11.875 [86.517] (-37%)
16./17. [3DS] Attack on Titan: The Last Wings of Mankind - Chain [Spike Chunsoft] - 11.052 [70.018] (-26%)
17./15. [3DS] Aikatsu! 365-Hi no Idol Days [Bandai Namco] - 10.863 [96.401] (-37%)
18./00. [3DS] Tomodachi Life [Nintendo] - 10.648 [1.773.200]
19./13. [WIU] Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker [Nintendo] - 10.421 [130.381] (-45%)
20./00. [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe [Nintendo] - 9.160 [686.479]

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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| 3DS # |    153.166 |    196.274 |    176.555 |    153.166 |    176.555 |  17.991.611 |
| PSV # |     58.005 |     57.790 |     75.400 |     58.005 |     75.400 |   3.596.227 |
|  PS4  |     42.216 |     33.150 |            |     42.216 |            |   1.012.883 |
|  WIU  |     30.031 |     43.950 |     51.271 |     30.031 |     51.271 |   2.173.611 |
|  PS3  |     17.867 |     12.578 |     40.085 |     17.867 |     40.085 |  10.186.858 |
|  XB1  |        637 |      1.162 |            |        637 |            |      43.904 |
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|  ALL  |    301.922 |    345.032 |    357.041 |    301.922 |    357.041 |  56.820.359 |
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| PSVTV |      1.305 |      1.090 |      5.313 |      1.305 |      5.313 |     151.518 |
|  PSV  |     56.700 |     56.700 |     70.087 |     56.700 |     70.087 |   3.444.709 |
|n-3DSLL|     76.439 |    105.947 |            |     76.439 |            |     943.497 |
| n-3DS |     40.338 |     49.503 |            |     40.338 |            |     409.644 |
| 3DSLL |     19.096 |     25.653 |    114.156 |     19.096 |    114.156 |   6.851.719 |
|  3DS  |     17.293 |     15.171 |     62.399 |     17.293 |     62.399 |   9.786.751 |
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Hardwarezahlenvergleich der drei Xbox-Konsolen in Japan:

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               XBX                    360                  XB1
01.    123.929 [123.929]    62.135 [ 62.135]         25.674 [ 25.674]
02.     37.147 [161.076]    12.320 [ 74.455]          3.015 [ 28.779]
03.     10.930 [172.006]     7.315 [ 81.770]          1.314 [ 30.003]
04.      7.924 [179.930]    12.755 [ 94.525]          1.113 [ 31.116]
05.      5.005 [184.935]     8.655 [103.180]          1.062 [ 32.178]

06.      5.157 [190.092]     4.620 [107.800]            809 [ 32.987]
07.      3.188 [193.280]     2.762 [110.562]            728 [ 33.715]
08.      2.532 [195.812]     2.095 [112.657]            613 [ 34.328]
09.      3.286 [199.098]     2.022 [114.679]            599 [ 34.927]
10.      5.112 [204.210]     1.463 [116.142]            513 [ 35.440]

11.      3.326 [207.536]     1.212 [117.354]          2.245 [ 37.685]
12.      1.872 [209.408]     1.082 [118.436]            776 [ 38.461]
13.        834 [210.242]     1.020 [119.456]          1.237 [ 39.698]
14.      6.447 [216.689]     1.035 [120.491]            790 [ 40.488]
15.      5.912 [222.601]     1.181 [121.672]            724 [ 41.212]

16.      2.836 [225.437]     1.550 [123.222]            893 [ 42.105]
17.      4.359 [229.796]     2.636 [125.858]          1.162 [ 43.267]
18.      3.358 [233.154]     1.752 [127.610]            637 [ 43.904]
19.      3.218 [236.372]     1.780 [129.390]
20.      3.111 [239.483]     2.852 [132.242]

21.      3.218 [242.701]     2.742 [134.984]
22.      2.958 [245.659]     2.021 [137.005]
23.      6.047 [251.706]     1.496 [138.501]
24.      3.826 [255.532]     1.415 [139.916]
25.      3.135 [258.667]     1.218 [141.134]
 
Bin mal gespannt wann Nintendo nen wirklich neuen handelt bringt.
So wies aktuell aussieht können die den New 3ds locker noch 3 Jahre verkaufen.

Hätte von Nintendo echt gerne nen Handheld mit mehr Power.
 
PS4 was the UK's best-selling console in 2014

Sony has added to its global PS4 sales info by confirming the console’s UK success in 2014.

The platform holder says GfK Chart-Track data shows that PS4 was the UK’s best-selling console in 2014 and also the best-selling machine on both Black Friday and Cyber Monday in November.

It was also the best-selling console in the final week of the year and the best-selling across November and December combined, although it has previously been claimed that Xbox One was the best-selling machine in November alone.

Earlier today Sony said that PS4 has now sold 18.5m PS4s worldwide.

The most recent Xbox One count had the console pegged at 10m shipped, not sold, as of November.
...

mcvuk.com
 
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