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Ganz im Gegenteil. Das hier ist im Grunde genommen die einzige Variante von Bewegungssteuerung die eben kein Fuchtelkram ist, da man nicht wild herumfuchtelt um von der eigentlichen Bewegung unabhängige Moves auf dem Bildschirm zu vollführen, sondern die eigenen Bewegungen (bzw zumindest die Position der Hände) 1:1 ins Spiel übertragen wird was dann eine tatsächliche Interaktion mit der Spielwelt erlaubt. Noch besser wären natürlich VR-Handschuhe etc, aber das hier zeigt, wie sich Bewegungssteuerung in VR mit erhältlichen Mitteln integrieren lässt OHNE dabei Kompromisse bei der restlichen Steuerung der Spielfigur machen zu müssen.
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laut Thuway ist Project Morpheus schon länger bei Sony in Entwicklung, schon bevor da Oculust Rift kam.
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So ein Preis wäre gemessen an der Technik sicherlich realistisch und fair. Massentauglich ist daran aber gar nichts.
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Welcher Preis?
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Morpheus Targeting $249-299 Price; Sony’s Studios Working on “Absolutely Fantastic” Things According to Insider
http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03...rking-on-absolutely-fantastic-things-insider/
Morpheus Targeting $249-299 Price; Sony’s Studios Working on “Absolutely Fantastic” Things According to Insider
http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03...rking-on-absolutely-fantastic-things-insider/
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Die ersten Impressionen.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/19/project-morpheus-hands-on/
http://vrfocus.com/archives/1406/hands-project-morpheus/
Diverse Twitter Impressionen.
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http://www.konsolentreff.net/themen...fizielle-thread.19360/seite-1209#post-2688930
Kennen wir schon. Ich fragte deshalb, weil hier die Diskussion noch mit den 1000 Dollar war. Ich wollte da nur einen etwaigen Zusammenhang erörtern.
Das sag ich ja schon die ganze Zeit...mal abwarten ob es wirklich so kommt, aber wenn VR ein Erfolg sein soll müssen das auch genug Leute kaufen sodass sich dedizierte VR Entwicklungen lohnen und das klappt nicht mit ner Brille zum Preis der eigentlichen Konsole oder mehr.
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Das wird in dieser Generation nicht mehr der Fall sein. Die Hersteller jammern schon fast, wenn sie nur ne Million Kopien eines AAA Titels verkaufen. Das kann bei einem Gerät, das - im besten Fall - einige hunderttausend Leute haben, natürlich nicht laufen. Das wird maximal auf Spiele vom Hersteller hinauslaufen, der damit bewusst ein Minusgeschäft macht, um es zu pushen. Und auf dem Pc wirds vermutlich die Modding und berufliche Freelancer Szene richten müssen.
We Just Tried Sony's PS4 Virtual Reality Headset. We Like It.
Yesterday, Sony entered the virtual reality fray by announcing Project Morpheus, a new virtual reality initiative aimed at making a VR headset for the PS4. Today at the Game Developers Conference in San Francisco, Stephen Totilo and I swung by Sony's booth to check it out.P
In a private meeting with Sony's Anton Mikhailov, we both tried out a couple of game demos and got a good feel for the headset. Here's what the setup looks like backstage:
There you can see a full array of PS4 peripherals—a DualShock 4 controller, PlayStation Camera, the Morpheus headset prototype, and the A/V box that'll split out the headset's signal to make it mirror to a TV or other screen.
Here are a couple of close-ups of the headset:
Stephen went first, to play a demo of EVE Valkyrie, an outer-space starship shooter set in theEVE Online universe. The fit of the headset was interesting:
As you can see, it's designed to put most of the weight on the user's head, and tightens from the plastic connector in the back. The actual eyepiece hangs from a sort of halo headband, and needs to be adjusted flush up against the user's face.
Video time. In this first video, we get a close look at the Morpheus headset:
[vid]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAJHD54qbog[/vid]
In the second video, I try out a demo called The Deep, developed by Sony's London Studio, with the Morpheus on my head and a PS4 controller in my hand:
[vid]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY4_XfAaWr0[/vid]
Playing The Deep does effectively give you the sense that you're actually standing in a shark tank, gradually descending into the murky depths. It's not for the faint of heart, though it might be good for some people (cough Luke Plunkett cough) to confront their fear of sharks. I do wish I could've gotten that damned flare gun to hurt the shark.
After our demo, Stephen and I spoke with Sony head of worldwide studios Shuhei Yoshida and Richard Marks, chief researcher at Sony's Magic Lab. We talked about their plans for the headset and the future of VR on PS4. A few specifics.
We'll have more on Sony's virtual reality headset soon, including more detailed thoughts on how Project Morpheus compares with the new Oculus Rift headset. The bottom line, for now: Video game VR is here and it's no joke, and what Sony's got so far seems promising.
http://kotaku.com/we-just-tried-sonys-ps4-virtual-reality-headset-we-l-1547417858
Yesterday, Sony entered the virtual reality fray by announcing Project Morpheus, a new virtual reality initiative aimed at making a VR headset for the PS4. Today at the Game Developers Conference in San Francisco, Stephen Totilo and I swung by Sony's booth to check it out.P
In a private meeting with Sony's Anton Mikhailov, we both tried out a couple of game demos and got a good feel for the headset. Here's what the setup looks like backstage:
There you can see a full array of PS4 peripherals—a DualShock 4 controller, PlayStation Camera, the Morpheus headset prototype, and the A/V box that'll split out the headset's signal to make it mirror to a TV or other screen.
Here are a couple of close-ups of the headset:
Stephen went first, to play a demo of EVE Valkyrie, an outer-space starship shooter set in theEVE Online universe. The fit of the headset was interesting:
As you can see, it's designed to put most of the weight on the user's head, and tightens from the plastic connector in the back. The actual eyepiece hangs from a sort of halo headband, and needs to be adjusted flush up against the user's face.
Video time. In this first video, we get a close look at the Morpheus headset:
[vid]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAJHD54qbog[/vid]
In the second video, I try out a demo called The Deep, developed by Sony's London Studio, with the Morpheus on my head and a PS4 controller in my hand:
[vid]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY4_XfAaWr0[/vid]
Playing The Deep does effectively give you the sense that you're actually standing in a shark tank, gradually descending into the murky depths. It's not for the faint of heart, though it might be good for some people (cough Luke Plunkett cough) to confront their fear of sharks. I do wish I could've gotten that damned flare gun to hurt the shark.
After our demo, Stephen and I spoke with Sony head of worldwide studios Shuhei Yoshida and Richard Marks, chief researcher at Sony's Magic Lab. We talked about their plans for the headset and the future of VR on PS4. A few specifics.
- They gave no price, not even a ballpark for the final version.
- They described a pretty cool scenario where you'd run a cable out of the headset's A/V box to your TV and see a single-screen version of the VR game on that screen. A second player could then grab a controller and play a game along with the VR player. As an example, Yoshida said that in The Deep, a second player can control the path of a turtle that swims around the diving cage. He said that VR offered a lot of possibilities for asynchronous gaming similar to the Wii U, with several players playing on the TV taking on the VR player. The setup will allow for four controllers, and while the headset currently counts for one of them, Marks said that they're still figuring out whether it'll always be that way.
- They're not distributing advance or prototype headsets for PC indie developers, for now it'll be only for developers making games on PS4.
- Yoshida confirmed that the commercial release will not happen in 2014.
- Yoshida said that Sony is working on dedicated gaming experiences for Morpheus, indicating that Sony's approach will involve making games that are just for Morpheus and would also explore allowing there to be Morpheus-only modes for non-VR games. They specifically said they don't want to just port PS4 games to Morpheus, for example, a normal PS4 FPS that would also be playable in VR
We'll have more on Sony's virtual reality headset soon, including more detailed thoughts on how Project Morpheus compares with the new Oculus Rift headset. The bottom line, for now: Video game VR is here and it's no joke, and what Sony's got so far seems promising.
http://kotaku.com/we-just-tried-sonys-ps4-virtual-reality-headset-we-l-1547417858
Project Morpheus, Sony's PlayStation 4 virtual reality helmet, is much better than expected
The challenge with Sony’s virtual reality headset Project Morpheus, and even Oculus was upfront about this fact, is to do virtual reality well.
The post-Oculus world has a minimum level of quality for virtual reality that new products have to at least match, if not clear, and Sony’s push into console-based virtual reality could poison the well for other companies if their high-profile hardware isn’t up to the task.
Luckily, it works well. Very well.
GOING INSIDE
The headset itself looks like it was sneezed on by a character from Tron, and it rests on the top of your head before you tighten straps to keep it in place. The optics can be moved towards or away from your head, I was able to keep my glasses on and still be comfortable, and the unit was pleasantly lightweight. It didn’t take long before I forgot I was wearing it so I could focus on the scene.
The first demo put you inside a diving cage, and you have a flair gun that you can use to scare away schools of fish. A shark swims around, and ultimately attacks you, and it’s hard to keep your balance while the cage is moving around you. They pulled off a neat trick with positional tracking; you can look down at your feet and your knees bend if you move up and down. It added to the sense of presence, a key factor in whether virtual reality works for the user.
It’s not all perfect, though. There was some light bleed from under the screen that could be distracting, although you’ll likely not notice it once the game begins. The field of view is also less than perfect, you can see black bars to the left and right of your eyes. It’s not terrible, but when you combine it with the light from the bottom of the screen it can become very clear that you’re not perfectly immersed in the game.
The next demo used the Move controls to slap around a medieval dummy in armor, and you could pick up swords to cut off the dummy's legs, arms and head. You could pick up the sword, hold the dummy's arm, slice through the shoulder with the sword and then throw the useless limb away. I felt like a butcher, and tried to cut off the dummy's head so I could throw it into the air to hit like a baseball. It didn't quite work, but it was a fun experiment.
That's the other problem: The Move controllers work very well the majority of the time, but in the course of playing the demo the calibration failed enough times to be frustration. It's very strange in virtual reality to feel like your hands in the game are your hands in real life, and that feeling is handled very well, until there is a glitch and your hand jumps five feet in the wrong direction. It takes you completely out of the experience, and can almost make you sick.
The other interesting bit is that Sony showed two demos where you're standing up. They encourage you to bounce up and down, to take a step or two in any direction. The Rift is often demoed as a sit down experience, and Sony seems to be very comfortable having you on your feet, allowing for much more motion.
The Move controllers, or the PlayStation 4 controllers with their built-in lights and the PlayStation camera, may not be up to the task of becoming high-precision positional tracking devices. This is also the first time the hardware has been shown to the public, and there's no solid release date, so there's plenty of room for these things to be improved.
The headset itself is also ... conspicuous. It's comfortable while worn, but it's covered in lights, and combined with the light from the controllers you can start to feel like you're inside a very strange rave. It's not a problem once you're inside the game, but it can be very strange to watch someone flail around with lighted controllers while their head is also covered in lights. Those lights are most likely used for calibration with the camera, but they make the helmet feel like a prop from a Daft Punk video.
These are nit picks though, and they can be adjusted or fixed for the final version. Sony's challenge was to prove that it could do virtual reality as well as the Oculus Rift, and they passed that test with ease.
The display looks wonderful, the demos were running at 60 frames per second, the screens looked just about as good as the Rift Development Kit 2, and the issues with light bleed and field of view can be fixed with a different fitting around the eyes and a slightly different display.
Sony has nailed the hard parts of virtual reality, and now it's just a matter of finishing the hardware and shoring up software support. Based on these early demos, they're onto something special.
http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/19/55...-playstation-4-virtual-reality-helmet-is-much
The challenge with Sony’s virtual reality headset Project Morpheus, and even Oculus was upfront about this fact, is to do virtual reality well.
The post-Oculus world has a minimum level of quality for virtual reality that new products have to at least match, if not clear, and Sony’s push into console-based virtual reality could poison the well for other companies if their high-profile hardware isn’t up to the task.
Luckily, it works well. Very well.
GOING INSIDE
The headset itself looks like it was sneezed on by a character from Tron, and it rests on the top of your head before you tighten straps to keep it in place. The optics can be moved towards or away from your head, I was able to keep my glasses on and still be comfortable, and the unit was pleasantly lightweight. It didn’t take long before I forgot I was wearing it so I could focus on the scene.
The first demo put you inside a diving cage, and you have a flair gun that you can use to scare away schools of fish. A shark swims around, and ultimately attacks you, and it’s hard to keep your balance while the cage is moving around you. They pulled off a neat trick with positional tracking; you can look down at your feet and your knees bend if you move up and down. It added to the sense of presence, a key factor in whether virtual reality works for the user.
It’s not all perfect, though. There was some light bleed from under the screen that could be distracting, although you’ll likely not notice it once the game begins. The field of view is also less than perfect, you can see black bars to the left and right of your eyes. It’s not terrible, but when you combine it with the light from the bottom of the screen it can become very clear that you’re not perfectly immersed in the game.
The next demo used the Move controls to slap around a medieval dummy in armor, and you could pick up swords to cut off the dummy's legs, arms and head. You could pick up the sword, hold the dummy's arm, slice through the shoulder with the sword and then throw the useless limb away. I felt like a butcher, and tried to cut off the dummy's head so I could throw it into the air to hit like a baseball. It didn't quite work, but it was a fun experiment.
That's the other problem: The Move controllers work very well the majority of the time, but in the course of playing the demo the calibration failed enough times to be frustration. It's very strange in virtual reality to feel like your hands in the game are your hands in real life, and that feeling is handled very well, until there is a glitch and your hand jumps five feet in the wrong direction. It takes you completely out of the experience, and can almost make you sick.
The other interesting bit is that Sony showed two demos where you're standing up. They encourage you to bounce up and down, to take a step or two in any direction. The Rift is often demoed as a sit down experience, and Sony seems to be very comfortable having you on your feet, allowing for much more motion.
The Move controllers, or the PlayStation 4 controllers with their built-in lights and the PlayStation camera, may not be up to the task of becoming high-precision positional tracking devices. This is also the first time the hardware has been shown to the public, and there's no solid release date, so there's plenty of room for these things to be improved.
The headset itself is also ... conspicuous. It's comfortable while worn, but it's covered in lights, and combined with the light from the controllers you can start to feel like you're inside a very strange rave. It's not a problem once you're inside the game, but it can be very strange to watch someone flail around with lighted controllers while their head is also covered in lights. Those lights are most likely used for calibration with the camera, but they make the helmet feel like a prop from a Daft Punk video.
These are nit picks though, and they can be adjusted or fixed for the final version. Sony's challenge was to prove that it could do virtual reality as well as the Oculus Rift, and they passed that test with ease.
The display looks wonderful, the demos were running at 60 frames per second, the screens looked just about as good as the Rift Development Kit 2, and the issues with light bleed and field of view can be fixed with a different fitting around the eyes and a slightly different display.
Sony has nailed the hard parts of virtual reality, and now it's just a matter of finishing the hardware and shoring up software support. Based on these early demos, they're onto something special.
http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/19/55...-playstation-4-virtual-reality-helmet-is-much
Naja...man muss dabei aber auch in Betracht ziehen, dass sich VR Spiele grafisch nicht auf dem Niveau herkömmlicher AAA Entwicklungen befinden werden ganz einfach weil die Power der PS4 nicht dazu reicht einerseits die für VR nötige Performance und andererseits eine Top-Grafik zu bieten.
Das wiederum bedeutet, dass der Aufwand beim erstellen solcher virtuellen Welten geringer ist (weniger detaillierte Assets, geringer aufgelöste Texturen, geringerer Shadereinsatz (das soll in VR eh nicht gut funktionieren) etc.) Daher werden natürlich auch die Entwicklungskosten geringer ausfallen. Darüber hinaus ist VR eine ganz andere Spielweise für entwickler. Die Regeln sind praktisch noch nicht existent und müssen erst geschaffen werden. ICh denke, dass hier auch mit wenig aufwand sehr spektakuläre Spiele möglich sind.
Abgesehen davon sehe ich die größte Hoffnung für VR eh in den Indieentwicklern wie zB den Leuten die Outlast gemacht haben. Sony ist doch gut dabei denen einen möglichst einfachen Zugang zur PS4 zu gewähren und das zahlt sich doch bereits aus. Die Spiele die für den PC und OR kommen werden daher vermutlich auch auf der PS4 erscheinen.
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